and here we go again, krylover just read the life cycle part in the suns wiki, and if you insists that its getting smaller you gonna have to proof it somehow cause all the other scientists and data proof you wrong
if you dont like wikipedia there something else here for you...
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjec ... eath.shtml
im still waiting you to post something to back you statement, but i guess if you just wanna scream and say im wrong ill get it

you want a proof of evolution, how about adaptation which is one the process in evolution, for instance if you play a lot of guitar you fingers will become thicker so it doesnt hurt as much, if you stay in the sun for long periods of time your skin becomes darker so it can protect you more from it, but i think the biggest proof evolution has is that the first human fossil is 65,000 years old
( http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... 6_omo.html )
where are all of the other ones?? and if you look anywhere there are a lot of other species fossil found that are older than that, god just decided to create humans one day and all the other creatures before???
heres a pic, letter A is chimp, letter N is a human
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... inids2.jpg
now post me a proof of creation
plz post you source or im just gonna stop replying, its easy saying whatever you want the hard part is backing it up

and yes he i know, but i just dont like idea of something "greater" in control of my life

Well thats micro-evolution isn't it patriot? When you look at Evolution vs Creation you have to look at each type of evolution.

Micro which is true, there are hundreds of different types of dogs, but they're still dogs.

Macro, which is absolute bull. Have you ever heard of or seen an ape turn into a human? Ever seen a dog turn into a cat? No.

Those are the two that I know most, I know there are others like cosmological and teleological I think, but I don't know much about them so I wont talk about them.

One question, if you can explain this than please do. If humans did evolve from apes, primates, gorillas, essentially monkeys. Than why are there still monkeys? If natural selection is true, and they evolved into humans because humans are the bigger better species, why didnt they all turn into humans if its better?

Also, one thing I often think about it the placement of our planet. Were just close enough to the sun that we don't freeze, and just far away enough that we don't burn up from the sun's heat.

And to think that there was nothing, and then it exploded, and rearranged into this, is absurd in my opinion. Now to an Atheist the thought of a God creating all of this seems just as absurd to you I would bet.

Well I'll explain my faith to you in a later post but its time for me to go to school

i have the answer for that Tainted

one the dating on the fossil's is way off. look up the guy that killed and buryed his cow called up a team a month later and they dated it to be millions of years old. how old are the papers of the little Shepard boy found hmm?
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MPatriot wrote:f you play a lot of guitar you fingers will become thicker so it doesnt hurt as much, if you stay in the sun for long periods of time your skin becomes darker so it can protect you more from it, but i think the biggest proof evolution has is that the first human fossil is 65,000 years old

isn't that like getting the flu type a and then getting inmuine to it, just like ur guitar or like shooting hockey muscle memory with padding.

TaintedEvil wrote:Micro which is true, there are hundreds of different types of dogs, but they're still dogs.

Macro, which is absolute bull. Have you ever heard of or seen an ape turn into a human? Ever seen a dog turn into a cat? No.

MPatriot wrote:http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjec ... eath.shtml

thats the life of a sun LIKE not the sun and whats evo explanation of the sun hmm thats its a star that keeps on exploding...the sun is a special star its different then the rest and as ur explanation said the sun is cooling and as its cooling its getting smaller but its still com-busting so its still gives off heat

MPatriot wrote:i have the answer for that Tainted

that still doesn't answer tainted btw it just shows the incompetence of ur theory in the fact that evo never really work cause if it did then why don't we have fossils of a funny looking frog or fish with legs, cause evo isnt really

no, that link i sent was specific about our sun, the one in this solar system, just read, the pic says its the life cycle of any kind of sun, but the text is about our sun, or your saying our sun is different from all the others in the universe, bc if you honestly believe that im done arguing...
yes, it its micro evolution, but if if you change a lot of smalls things then thats gonna make a difference, right?? maybe turn it into something different then the rest, and, like the pic says and you guys still dont get, IT DOES NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, takes time, you dont suddenly get stronger out of 1 day on the gym
krylover if im not mistaken creation is a theory too or you have any proof that it actually happened?
Tell me, why do you guys think creation is real and evolution isnt?? Did you figure that one yourselfs or you were told that is that and period? Did you think for your own?

i really think its time to move this to vent cause im getting tired of typing

So if it didn't happen overnight, then why are there still apes if being a human is much more advantageous and ould be a better choice if natural selection were true. They would be either dead, or all humans. And, I believe the New Testament is a historically accurate document.

no its death of a sun like star look the picture dude
i am done pat is just too hard head on not believeing that God is there cause he don't like the idea that soneone bigger then him is watching his every move and when judgement day comes we will see whos right

Sorry i forgot to comment on the apes, its like darwin says, survival of the fittest, who do you think is more likely to survive in the jungle you or a monkey? I know there werent cities when that happened but there where jungles and forest, just like there were open areas where being a monkey wasnt so useful, so basically, i believe, that the monkeys and chimps that moved to this open areas like savanahs and everything didnt change, but the ones who were more adapt to this new eviroment survived and the other ones didnt, and the ones who were more adapt eventually changed into homo erectus and so on...
i dont even know whats the New Testament about, but if your gonna believe everything that is written in books? Where is the other source to confirm it? Or you just gonna believe that thats is that without even second guessing?


im telling you to read the text and your telling me to see the picture?????????????

and sry for no believe but i dont just accept things as they come, not when they dont make any logic compared to everything else i have ever seen

There are humans that live in jungles, like African Tribes.

yeah, but they are less adapted to the enviroment then the apes there, why do you think they have spears and everything?